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Steve G



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For my money the small pose in the corner is working better...

the squash of the bent left leg against the bent left arm works well with the stretch openess of the straight rt leg and rt arm and helps draw the eye towards the center of the image - and you might consider reversing the angle of the FG cliff element so it also angles out of the bottom rt.
The larger image (and the one on canvas has the rt leg bent working against the staright rt arm and the left vice-versa and while it gives more of a sense of action and reaction it feels disjointedand the action line broken. Another suggestion (like you need or want it) is to keep the bent rt leg and straight rt arm but have the lft leg straight but following the line of the rt arm even more and working on a lower level (have the ground even more angled than you've indicated...) so there seems to be a strong action line leading to the rt hand

my 2 cents for whatever it's worth...
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve G wrote:
For my money the small pose in the corner is working better...

the squash of the bent left leg against the bent left arm works well with the stretch openess of the straight rt leg and rt arm and helps draw the eye towards the center of the image - and you might consider reversing the angle of the FG cliff element so it also angles out of the bottom rt.
The larger image (and the one on canvas has the rt leg bent working against the staright rt arm and the left vice-versa and while it gives more of a sense of action and reaction it feels disjointedand the action line broken. Another suggestion (like you need or want it) is to keep the bent rt leg and straight rt arm but have the lft leg straight but following the line of the rt arm even more and working on a lower level (have the ground even more angled than you've indicated...) so there seems to be a strong action line leading to the rt hand

my 2 cents for whatever it's worth...



I agree with all your points. One of my early poses that I painted onto the canvas was just what you described. It's a very classic and powerful pose.

However the right leg bent pose had more "torq", the dynamic coil of the twisting torso, and more sense of "power". As if King Kong is whirling around and up, snatching the Ptero from the sky.

Quite frankly, I'm just seconding myself at this point.

Maybe I should just paint TWO giant King Kong paintings, one with bent right leg and the other with bent left leg.
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

artist   artist  >   bang_head

In other words, save yourself the time/headache and paint the 2 different poses like you said

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2010 10:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank Cho wrote:
Steve G wrote:
For my money the small pose in the corner is working better...

the squash of the bent left leg against the bent left arm works well with the stretch openess of the straight rt leg and rt arm and helps draw the eye towards the center of the image - and you might consider reversing the angle of the FG cliff element so it also angles out of the bottom rt.
The larger image (and the one on canvas has the rt leg bent working against the staright rt arm and the left vice-versa and while it gives more of a sense of action and reaction it feels disjointedand the action line broken. Another suggestion (like you need or want it) is to keep the bent rt leg and straight rt arm but have the lft leg straight but following the line of the rt arm even more and working on a lower level (have the ground even more angled than you've indicated...) so there seems to be a strong action line leading to the rt hand

my 2 cents for whatever it's worth...



I agree with all your points. One of my early poses that I painted onto the canvas was just what you described. It's a very classic and powerful pose.

However the right leg bent pose had more "torq", the dynamic coil of the twisting torso, and more sense of "power". As if King Kong is whirling around and up, snatching the Ptero from the sky.

Quite frankly, I'm just seconding myself at this point.

Maybe I should just paint TWO giant King Kong paintings, one with bent right leg and the other with bent left leg.


Waiting for two Kong paintings would be worth it!  Awesome work so far Frank
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Frank Cho wrote:
Steve G wrote:
For my money the small pose in the corner is working better...

the squash of the bent left leg against the bent left arm works well with the stretch openess of the straight rt leg and rt arm and helps draw the eye towards the center of the image - and you might consider reversing the angle of the FG cliff element so it also angles out of the bottom rt.
The larger image (and the one on canvas has the rt leg bent working against the staright rt arm and the left vice-versa and while it gives more of a sense of action and reaction it feels disjointedand the action line broken. Another suggestion (like you need or want it) is to keep the bent rt leg and straight rt arm but have the lft leg straight but following the line of the rt arm even more and working on a lower level (have the ground even more angled than you've indicated...) so there seems to be a strong action line leading to the rt hand

my 2 cents for whatever it's worth...



I agree with all your points. One of my early poses that I painted onto the canvas was just what you described. It's a very classic and powerful pose.

However the right leg bent pose had more "torq", the dynamic coil of the twisting torso, and more sense of "power". As if King Kong is whirling around and up, snatching the Ptero from the sky.

Quite frankly, I'm just seconding myself at this point.

Maybe I should just paint TWO giant King Kong paintings, one with bent right leg and the other with bent left leg.


Both valid points of view and both would be awesome coming from you Frank. Go with your gut. Perhaps this will be the cover to Sketchbook vol. 8?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the biggest of the 2 sketches. the knee looks like its more up than in the painting (or is it?) which is fitting to the position he is standing and the teeth look more like he's really, really angry. Oh,  and a nice belly on Kong.

and those "pantoffels" look really comfy on the artist.

Nice one!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 11:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

dayofthedead wrote:
Frank Cho wrote:
Steve G wrote:
For my money the small pose in the corner is working better...

the squash of the bent left leg against the bent left arm works well with the stretch openess of the straight rt leg and rt arm and helps draw the eye towards the center of the image - and you might consider reversing the angle of the FG cliff element so it also angles out of the bottom rt.
The larger image (and the one on canvas has the rt leg bent working against the staright rt arm and the left vice-versa and while it gives more of a sense of action and reaction it feels disjointedand the action line broken. Another suggestion (like you need or want it) is to keep the bent rt leg and straight rt arm but have the lft leg straight but following the line of the rt arm even more and working on a lower level (have the ground even more angled than you've indicated...) so there seems to be a strong action line leading to the rt hand

my 2 cents for whatever it's worth...



I agree with all your points. One of my early poses that I painted onto the canvas was just what you described. It's a very classic and powerful pose.

However the right leg bent pose had more "torq", the dynamic coil of the twisting torso, and more sense of "power". As if King Kong is whirling around and up, snatching the Ptero from the sky.

Quite frankly, I'm just seconding myself at this point.

Maybe I should just paint TWO giant King Kong paintings, one with bent right leg and the other with bent left leg.


Waiting for two Kong paintings would be worth it!  Awesome work so far Frank


But if he does both poses it could be six years until he's done! Just work on one at a time Mr. Cho. I'm sure that whichever pose you choose to do, it'll be perfect when you're done.

awesome Frank awesome2
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 4:14 pm    Post subject: pose Reply with quote

Howdy,
  The pose question aside I love the way that painting is shaping up. The colors look very atmospheric. I'd vote for the two paintings, myself.

  And since you've been drawing Kong since forever I'm guessing you've got tons of sketches around. So here's my vote for the next sketchbook title:
Babes and Really Big Gorillas.

No?

Kong and Cavewomen?

Great painting, and I like both of the sketches.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By now you could have painted two or more kongs!
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